Surgeons Quitting Medicine? Seeing Eye-to-Eye Podcast #8. Shannon Wong, MD and Max Medert, MD.
Max Medert, MD and Shannon Wong, MD discuss the following video about a neurosurgeon who graduated from MIT and completed a neurosurgical residency then decided to quit practicing medicine due to what he describes as "moral injury." Link to his video: • I Was An MIT Educated Neurosurgeon No...
The seeing eye to eye (SEE) podcast with Shannon Wong, MD and Max Medert, MD is a podcast with two eye surgeons discussing medicine, business and life. This is episode 8 of the seeing eye to eye podcast.
Shannon Wong and Max Medert are ophthamologists/eye surgeons at Austin Eye in Austin, TX in practice together.
Video segments:
0:01 Introductions
0:28 What is the seeing eye to eye podcast about?
0:50 The video which is the focus of our talk – Goobie and Doobie – neurosurgeon quits medicine
2:10 Goobie and Doobie: I Was An MIT Educated Neurosurgeon Now I'm Unemployed And Alone In The Mountains How Did I Get Here? • I Was An MIT Educated Neurosurgeon No...
2:39 Who is Goobie? What is the true identity of Goobie Neurosurgeon? Is he telling a true story?
5:20 The Hippocratic oath. The white coat ceremony. The job of doctors is to relieve suffering.
9:15 Idealism vs Reality. Realities of medicine. What is involved in a career in medicine?
13:20 Goobie’s medical training journey
15:05 Becoming disenchanted with medical training. Opportunity costs involved with medical training. How we find our career destinations.
20:30 “MIT trained neurosurgeon.”
23:00 Goobie’s realization that his choice to pursue neurosurgery would not lead him toward a path of happiness.
24:00 Should we only pursue what makes us happy? Idealism vs reality.
26:15 The Journey vs the destination. There is beauty in the struggle.
28:30 Adjusting, adapting and pivoting in a career
30:55 Why Goobie felt that his neurosurgical skills were not actually addressing the root causes of patient suffering
34:05 Can doctors fix all medical problems? Can doctors fix all medical problems with surgery?
40:09 Why surgery is not addressing the root cause of patient suffering.
45:55 Is preventative medicine always effective?
46:40 Simple. Never Easy. Human will power.
54:00 Goobie's analysis of the medical system.
56:52 Population medicine. Outcomes driven medicine. Fee for service medicine. Value based healthcare. The complexities and incentives that drive health care utilization.
1:24:00 Why Goobie quit neurosurgery.
1:26:40 Moral injury. What is the purpose of life? Is the purpose of life to live for one's own pleasure? Is the purpose of life to live to serve others? What should Goobie do in retirement?
1:46:00 Being adaptable. Why choose ophthalmology as a career choice?
