I feel this discussion pertains to all societal structures (including the American Education System). The context of this discussion is with my mentor and friend Reverend Kamal Hassan, Pastor at Sojourner Truth Church in Richmond, CA. The discussion is around a book by Professor You from Columbia University. The book has researched the Racism (mostly historic but also how it has continued) in the Presbyterian church. This one segment focuses on how changing paradigms and power structures requires fierceness.